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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

RE: battery cycles

Hi Dave,

 

It is hard to calculate the recharge cycles on a NiMH battery because there are so many variables. You can count on many hundreds if you use the battery regularly. The worst thing that folks do as far as battery life is concerned is to either grossly overcharge them with a dumb charger that cannot tell when the battery is full and just “cooks” the battery or to not use it at all and store it long term.

 

Rechargeable batteries will not last forever but you will rarely if ever find an actual expiration date. That is why we only carry batteries from suppliers that we know have a fast turnaround time and are certain that their batteries have not been sitting on a warehouse for a long time.

 

All our products are fully guaranteed for 30 days and if you are not satisfied for any reason you can return them for a refund or exchange. In addition we have a year performance warranty on all our products.

 

Thanks for shopping at greenbatteries.com!

 

Sincerely,

 

Curtis

 

 

Responsible Energy Corporation
Curtis Randolph - CEO
16157 Galena Meadows Drive

Reno, NV 89511

direct 775-852-3883

toll free 800-790-7866

fax 815-301-3958
cell 775-722-9901
www.greenbatteries.com

www.portablebatteries.com

 

 

 

From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:56 AM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: battery cycles

 

Hello Curtis,

I am looking to purchase your Greenbatteries brand batteries in aa, aaa, and d cell sizes.  How many recharge cycles will these batteries withstand?

Thanks,
Dave.

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Monday, February 11, 2008

RE: Availability of ULSD AAA? (and some questions about their use in flashlights)

Hi Ed,

 

What a good idea to add this to our blog. Consider it done. Your responses are below. The ULSD batteries are expected to be back in stock in the next 7-10 days. Sorry, I did not order enough last time.

 

Sincerely,

 

Curtis

 

Responsible Energy Corporation
Curtis Randolph - CEO
16157 Galena Meadows Drive

Reno, NV 89511

direct 775-852-3883

toll free 800-790-7866

fax 815-301-3958
cell 775-722-9901
www.greenbatteries.com

www.portablebatteries.com

 

 

From: Ed
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:19 AM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: Availability of ULSD AAA? (and some questions about their use in flashlights)

 

Hi Curtis,

I am trying to order some of the GreenBatteries brand Ultra Low Self Discharge AAA NiMH 800mAh units, but it won't let me add them to the cart, claiming that "The item is not currently available. Please check back later."  Can you please tell me when you expect to have these batteries available?[Curtis Randolph]  approx. 7-10 days

While I'm at it, I wouldn't mind a little advice if you have the time.  I'm looking to purchase these batteries for use in a 4-bulb LED headlamp from Petzl.  Each headlamp uses 3 AAA batteries.  I saw one post in your blog that talks about rechargeable batteries often having a hard time fitting into flashlights due to the tight fit, but that this can be remedied by removing the PVC casing.  I am willing to do that in order to use rechargeables in these headlamps, but I'm curious if there are any safety issues in doing so.[Curtis Randolph]  no this is perfectly safe

Also, I have noticed that the headlamps (obviously) have a much brighter output when the alkaline batteries are brand new.  I assume I should expect to see a slightly lower light initial output from the headlamps when using the recharbeables, but the light output should be more consistent over the life of the batteries (or battery charge to be more accurate), due to the more constant drain rate.  Is this a correct understanding/assumption?[Curtis Randolph] yes this is right on target

Finally, I use these headlamps infrequently (often-times it's months between uses), but when I do use them, I use them a lot (heavily, every night, for a week or two straight).  I would prefer to leave a set of batteries in the headlamps at all times for emergency use, so I assume this is a good application for using the ULSD batteries.  Again, does this seem like a good choice?[Curtis Randolph]  yes this is a great application for this type of battery

Thanks for putting together such a great site with clear, concise information.  Perhaps you could add an entry to your blog dealing specifically with the use of rechargeables in flashlights?[Curtis Randolph]  oh OK if you insist. ;-)

Sincerely,

- Ed Ditlefsen -

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008

RE: Charging Batteries

Hi Bob,

 

You can almost always do that because chargers typically will either charge the batteries individually or in pairs. Charging one battery at a time is only possible if your charger handles the batteries individually. Look at how many LED’s are on the charger – normally there is one LED for each charge circuit.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Sincerely,

 

Curtis

 

From: Bob
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:52 PM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: Charging Batteries

 

Most, if not all AA chargers provide space to charge 4 batteries at a time.  My camera only uses 2 batteries.  My question: Can I charge just 2 batteries in a 4 battery position charger?

Thanks,

Bob

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RE: trickle charging

Hi Joshua,

 

Thanks for the updated information from Duracell. I’ll change the verbiage to my site to reflect that generally manufacturers do not recommend an indefinite trickle charge. People have always done it anyway for convenience and although constant trickle wears out the batteries slightly the batteries are actually losing a little bit capacity just sitting on a shelf anyway and this way they are always ready to use when you need them.

 

Sincerely,

 

Curtis

 

 

From: Joshua

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:05 PM
To: info@greenbatteries.com
Subject: trickle charging

 

On your website in the battery info section on trickle charging NiMH, you state that trickle charging is not recommended by battery manufacturers.  However, duracell recommends trickle charging at a rate of C/300 on their website as seen here: http://www.duracell.com/oem/rechargeable/Nickel/methods.asp.  You should update your website with correct information.

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Tuesday, January 01, 2008

RE: Sanyo 2500 NiMH AAs shelf life

Hi Orrie,

You may be having an issue with one of the batteries. If you have a tester
you can use it to see if all the batteries are experiencing the severe self
discharge issue of just one (or maybe two). Then get them replaced (if you
have any bad batteries) so the batteries are all performing within about 5%
of each other - 10% max. The battery that is the weakest will make the
camera stop working regardless of the charge state of the others.

Alternatively, if you do not use your batteries very regularly, you can
consider getting some of the ULSD NiMH batteries that are on the market.

They do not have as much capacity if used all in a day or two but maintain
their charge longer. This is my favorite NiMH AA battery because I do not
use my Kodak camera very often. They also work well for other devices that
do not have a high drain, like flashlights, etc.

Hope that helps.

Sincerely,

Curtis

P.S.- I add your email to the blog by bccing the blog email address (I don't
publish the address so I can moderate the content)

-----Original Message-----
From: Orrie Frutkin
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:19 PM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: Sanyo 2500 NiMH AAs shelf life

Hi Curtis,

I bought some Sanyo 2500 NiMH AA's (model HR-3U 1.2v) batteries and a
GBTurbo 4000 charger from Green Batteries to use with my wife's Canon
PowerShot A540 camera. The batteries seem to charge normally, and can shoot
what seems like a fair number of pictures, as long as the photos are shot
within a very few days - less than a week.

If freshly charged batteries are put in the camera -- or just stored in
their little plastic case --and then not used immediately, they seem to lose

their power in about 7 to 10 days. They are either dead and will not respond

at all when the camera's on/off is pressed, or, they will only put out a
feeble amount of power to start to boot up the camera, then quit. This seems

like far faster and deeper draining than the losing "40% of their charge
within a month" mentioned in GB's NiMH FAQs. The camera and batteries are
kept on a desk at room temperature.

Since my wife does not use her camera every day, this means we have to
charge the batteries almost every time she wants to take picture. If she
shoots, say 5 to 10 shots on a weekend, and then nothing during the week,
the batteries are likely to be dead when she picks up the camera the
followeing weekend. In effect, we have to keep keep charging batteries that
have done no useful work. Is this a characteristic of the batteries or
charger? Or could there be something in the camera that causes the batteries

to drain? It seems to work properly while the batteries are recently
charged. Will this usage (or non-usage) and charging pattern harm the
batteries; for example, by not allowing them to take a full charge?

My wife now prefers using ordinary disposable alkaline AA's because they
actually take more pictures without the bother of recharging all the time.
I'm not happy about the waste and "green" and aspects of this, but it's hard

to argue that she should continue to wait for the NiMH batteries to charge
rather than just pop in a couple of alkalines.

Thanks for any help and advice you can provide.

(By the way, I visited your blog, but could not find a way to add this
question to the blog discussion. How doe it work?)

Orrie

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Saturday, October 20, 2007

RE: Looking for advise

Hi Steve,

 

The best way to test rechargeable batteries is to get some and see if they perform to your expectations, but be careful about using them in flashlights. Rechargeable batteries are typically slightly larger in diameter and may not fit well (without removing the PVC wrapping) in flashlights that have very tight tolerances. The batteries that are well suited for flashlights that are used occasionally are the ULSD units that retain their charge longer for devices that are not used frequently, but are only available in AAA and AAA at this time.

 

The chargers are easy, we have many to choose from that will work well and charge the number of batteries that you mention.

 

If you are looking for a specific recommendation I would suggest that you get a ten cell charger and some AA and AAA ULSD batteries (the light green units) and a couple sets of the battery adapters to see if you like the battery performance in the devices that you mention. I think that you will. Getting D cells is not needed and is much more expensive since the batteries also need a charger that will accommodate the larger size.

 

Sincerely,


Curtis

 

From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:47 AM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: Looking for advise

 

I would like to test rechargeable batteries that we use to see if we can convert over to this versus disposables 

 

If this works for us, we would be looking for the following:

 

80-100 AAA, for handheld recorders, and ability to charge 8-10 at a time.

60 AA, for small flashlights, and ability to charge 6-8 at a time.

40 D for 3 cell maglites, and ability to charge 4 at a time.

 

Please give me your best recommendations, costs involved, and how can I go about testing them?

 

Thanks,

Steve McKee

ServiceMaster

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Monday, September 03, 2007

RE: battery shelf life? (for never used batteries)

Hi Lea,
 
You will not really be able to get much good information about this aspect of NiMH rechargeable batteries. They all have a finite shelf life but there is no standard of how long will they last, nor is there any standard of knowing when a battery was made and how old it is exactly.
 
Generally a NiMH battery will still be OK for a few years if you have it in the original packaging, but newer batteries are definitely better. The key is to get a good quality battery charger that has the ability to "rescue" a bad battery. Many NiMH batteries are just suffering from depleted voltage and can still be revived if used in a battery charger that has that ability. Many times I take a "bad battery" from one charger and try it in another charger - even one that has no smart features at all - and it gets it past the low voltage that caused the "smart charger" to say that it was "bad" and not chargeable.
 
Hope that helps.
 
Sincerely,
 
Curtis


From: lstone
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:18 PM
To: info@greenbatteries.com
Subject: battery shelf life? (for never used batteries)


Hi!
We have a library customer who is trying to find out about the shelf-life of unopened, un-used NiMH batteries.
We wondered if you would know!

Her question is, can you store such batteries indefinitely, then open them up, charge them, and use,
or do NiMH batteries have a shelf-life?
Her question is not about the self-discharge aspect of storing rechargeable batteries.
Her question is about never-before-used NiMH batteries, still sealed in their package - how long can they be stored in an unopened condition and still be usable?
So, for example, can she buy a dozen of them, put them away (unopened) in the closet, and still expect to be able to use them in 5, 10, 15, or 20 years?

We are having a tough time tracking this information down!
Thanks so much for any light you can shed!!

Lea Stone
Librarian, Contra Costa County Library

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Thursday, August 30, 2007

RE: question about low discharge batteries

Hi Michael,
 
I have always liked the Sanyo brand, having sold them with great success for many years. That said, I have had more battery returns from Sanyo batteries this last year and a half than all other batteries brands that we carry combined. That is why I have consciously allowed our Sanyo inventory to get really low and why I have not bothered to carry the Eneloop.
 
I bought Sanyo Eneloop and Hybrio and of course our greenbatteries.com brand of ULSD batteries and frankly, I have not done any really exhaustive tests. They all seem to do about the same if you charge them slowly and keep them from high ambient temperatures. They all discharge faster than "advertised" if you put them in a non air conditioned place. (that is why our GB ULSD batteries are only asserted to keep their charge for 6 months, not he year that Sanyo asserts.
 
Remember, any thing that you get from us, our brand or any one else's is 100 guaranteed to satisfy or your money back.
 
Sincerely,
 
Curtis


From: michael
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:24 PM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: question about  low discharge batteries

Hi,
How do your low discharge batteries compare with Sanyo's eneloop? Are
they essentially the same? Yours are less expensive and i like your
company motto. I'd prefer to buy from you, but wanted to be sure i get a
good product. I will respect your honest answer.
Mike

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Wednesday, June 13, 2007

RE: Battery chargers

Hi Joe,

Thanks for your email. We have several chargers that will do what you need.
First, all good quality NiMH battery chargers will charge the ULSD batteries
so that part is easy.

Next, you can consider the models that have a battery conditioning feature
and all the other features that you mention below - we have several from
which to choose.

Simple discharge/conditioning

http://www.greenbatteries.com/10celanimbat.html

http://www.greenbatteries.com/battery-charger-aa.html

http://www.greenbatteries.com/unsmbachandc.html

http://www.greenbatteries.com/ma10cechfora.html


Full featured discharge/conditioning/battery analysis

http://www.greenbatteries.com/bcalbachandr.html

http://www.greenbatteries.com/mhc9000.html

I'll use your desired feature list to update the battery charger comparison
table on our site in the next day or so - it has been a while since I
updated it with all of our newer chargers.

http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterychargercompare.html


Hope that helps.

Sincerely,

Curtis

Responsible Energy Corporation
Curtis Randolph - CEO
16157 Galena Meadows Drive
Reno, NV 89511
direct 775-852-3883
toll free 800-790-7866
fax 815-301-3958
cell 775-722-9901
www.greenbatteries.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Trubinsky
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:08 PM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: Battery chargers

Hello,

I visited your site and it looks like you have several chargers to choose
from. I wanted to buy a high quality charger that has the 5 features listed
below:

(A) Charges Nickel-Metal Hydride (NiMH) batteries, and the new Low Self
Discharge(LSD) NiMH batteries. Must be AA size (other sizes in same charger
in addition to AA would be great.)

(B) Has a discharge cycle, more commonly called a reconditioning cycle.

(C) Charges each battery individually, not just in pairs.

(D) Automatically switches from recondition mode to recharge mode, without
requiring you to go to the charger to flip a switch half-way through the
process.


(E) Switches to a trickle charge or shuts off or automatically after the
batteries are charged.

Please let me know if you have such a charger and where I can find it on
your site.

Thank you,

Joe Trubinsky

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007

RE: low discharge battery questions

Hi Sam,
 
Yes, they can be charged in any good quality NiMH charger. You might want to be careful using a really super fast charger though and watch them during the charge cycle - at ,least the first few times. I have noticed that the chargers that are typically included with these newer "ready to use" or ultra low self discharge (ULSD) NiMH batteries are very slow chargers. That said, these NiMH batteries are advertised by their manufacturers to be usable with any modern good quality NiMH charger.
 
They all seem to perform equally well in my casual tests with my Kodak camera and CD player, flashlight, etc. but I have not really done any aggressive tests. I can say that I found it odd to discover that only the Hybrio batteries were actually received 100% full of power. The Eneloop and greenbatteries.com brand batteries were received 60% full of power. Not sure what that means...
 
Also the Hybrio batteries have an odd discharge curve that is hard to describe in any way but erratic. Does not seem to affect the performance though...
 
These batteries are all so new that really serious testing is in order to see if one comes out on top but finding the time is the issue. ;-)
 
Remember, any batteries that you get from us are 100% guaranteed though so you are able to feel comfortable.
 
Sincerely,
 
Curtis
 
Responsible Energy Corporation
Curtis Randolph - CEO
16157 Galena Meadows Drive
Reno, NV 89511
direct 775-852-3883
toll free 800-790-7866
fax 815-301-3958
cell 775-722-9901
www.greenbatteries.com
 


From: sam h
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:50 AM
To: curtis@greenbatteries.com
Subject: low discharge battery questions

Can low discharge batteries be charged with any nimh charger?
Have you found differences between eneloop, hybrio, and ultra low discharge greenbatteries?

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